Hello again,
After my previous post about Bilbo, We have discussed importing Bilbo, as a blogging client, into KDE PIM, and they accepted to replace KBlogger with it.
And then, with help of Christian Weilbach, the KBlog project maintainer, We changed Bilbo and KBlog to work better with each other…
But before we proceed we have a little problem with the name that was not considered from the beginning. The name seems to be OWNED by an organization (Tolkien Enterprises).
So, We are thinking about it, And after all, we need your help to select a good, simple, short, funny and hacky name for KDE Blogging Client.
What you can do is to send your comments on this page, and leave whatever name you think is good for it.
And more info if the name has a meaning (that we may not know in English) or in other languages.
Don’t forget that this is a brain storm so anything that comes to your mind is appreciated. So don’t judge and donate us your precious ideas.
Thanks for your consideration.
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Result of Brainstorm:
At first, Thanks for your consideration, and the time you spend here, to help us to select a good name for KDE Blogging Client. I didn’t expect this huge number of ideas, Thanks community
At last, We choose “Blogilo” for it, I hope you like it too…
Our Reasons:
It has a good meaning: Arnomane says that It means “Blog Tool” in Esperanto,
It’s short,
It’s global and world wide,
And It’s like Blog+Bilbo.
The worse thing can be lack of K in it. :D
Others are fine too, but hey, we need just one name :D
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Posted by Random ideas on September 17, 2009 at 2:13 am
– speaK
– talK
– Kommunicate
Posted by drvoodoo on September 17, 2009 at 2:25 am
spontaneous incidents:
– Kpublish
– publiK ( public, to publish)
– WebWriter
that’s it for now
cheers voodoo
Posted by IndianGeek on September 17, 2009 at 2:29 am
Kaho
(Means “speak” in Hindi [India])
Posted by Peperjohnny on September 17, 2009 at 2:32 am
– ManusKript
Posted by Mehdi on September 17, 2009 at 2:38 am
Kamin (kāmin) = capable
Posted by Hans on September 17, 2009 at 2:59 am
– Convey / Konvey
– Kpress
I would prefer a name with the word ‘blog’ in it. (With that said, I really liked ‘Bilbo’. :/)
Posted by pprkut on September 17, 2009 at 3:01 am
Vox (Voice in Latin)
Mercury (Messenger of the gods in Roman mythology)
Posted by Vish on September 17, 2009 at 3:10 am
Klog :D
Posted by Mehrdad on September 17, 2009 at 11:14 pm
It’s like K Log, and can mean to a Logger app :D
Posted by nixternal on September 17, 2009 at 3:10 am
KDiarizer
Posted by Andrew Stromme on September 17, 2009 at 3:15 am
I’m going to put my vote in as a few anti-names. Please not KSomething or somethingK with the k capitalized at the end just because. It can have a K in it, just make it normal, please.
Reading the above entries, I enjoy Kaho (really good!) or Vox
Posted by Rainer Endres on September 17, 2009 at 10:36 am
Vox is not possible because of vox.com a blogging platform.
Posted by purple-bobby on September 17, 2009 at 3:30 am
K-WebLog K-WeBlog – un-abbreviate / elaborate Blog
Ogle Boggle Coggle Koggle – look, confuse, wobble
Cognitive Kognit Kognize
Clog Klog – wooden or hard leather shoe
Clamour Klamour – loud persistent noise from crowd, a bit like Glamour
Crank CranK KranK – lever or handle to turn a shaft
LumberjacK – a logger
Logo- -logue logo-web web-logue – word or speech
-logy KBlogy KWeblogy – science or study
roll web-roll – roll / scroll of paper, roll call
Posted by aa on September 17, 2009 at 3:35 am
“blok”? :)
Posted by Noname on September 17, 2009 at 3:48 am
Bilblo (parts of Bilbo & blog) :)
Posted by Roberto Alsina on September 17, 2009 at 3:53 am
I can donate BartleBlog from an old project of mine.
Posted by mat on September 17, 2009 at 3:58 am
koltien
klog
Posted by Karthikeyan on September 17, 2009 at 4:05 am
Publish
Publisher
KPublish
Slate (as in write anything)
WebWrite
2myBlog
Posted by patcito on September 17, 2009 at 4:08 am
kitab http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitab
Kitab (Arabic: کتاب) is the Arabic word for book. The word is also used in the Persian, Hindi, Punjabi, Urdu, Swahili (as “kitabu”), and Turkish (as “kitap”) languages and in some contexts in Greek (“κιτάπι”).
Posted by Steve on September 17, 2009 at 4:18 am
Blog Off – where I come from we sometimes tell people to “bog off” and there does seem to be a lot of that sort of sentiment in blogs sometimes :-D
Posted by Steve on September 17, 2009 at 4:21 am
Hmm. Just did a search on Blog Off. Looks a bit too commonly used/ may be TM’d.
Posted by scomar on September 17, 2009 at 4:53 am
hacK
Posted by reza on September 17, 2009 at 4:58 am
Spreadeea -> spread the idea (both english word)
indonesian:
Tulis – to write
Sebar – to spread
Jangkau – to reach
Sampaikan – to inform or to tell
Posted by Sune on September 17, 2009 at 5:37 am
baKon
Posted by Bugsbane on September 17, 2009 at 6:01 am
Klogger?
Posted by aavci on September 17, 2009 at 6:19 am
Konush -> speak (Turkish)
Posted by John on September 17, 2009 at 7:15 am
rakontu
Posted by cjc15153 on September 17, 2009 at 7:43 am
pepys: personal ephemera publisher y saver
Named after famous diarist Samuel Pepys with the ‘y’ serving as a spanglish ‘and’.
Posted by Jan on September 17, 2009 at 8:08 am
“Klobber” (Global Blogger with k)
Posted by Jeffery on September 17, 2009 at 9:55 am
What?! Nobody’s suggested “Kilbo”?! XD
Okay, but seriously, though, I’d vote for KPress – or, if you don’t want a KName, Vox would get my second vote. On second thought, Konvey would also be good.
Posted by Ernest N. WIlcox Jr. on September 17, 2009 at 10:27 am
The first thing that came to mind was KBC for K-DE B-log C-lient. Not very geeky, but simple and easy to remember . . .
Posted by tommi on September 17, 2009 at 11:35 am
I like KBC but unfortunatly it is on of the biggest finance cooperations in Belgium (www.kbc.be), so probably TM’d
Posted by Cypher on September 17, 2009 at 10:39 am
Please, no… no more K. I like Vox too.
Posted by TGM on September 17, 2009 at 1:26 pm
Seconded – no more K!
What about WeBlog? Note the moved captial to show a sense of community :)
Posted by Nikolaj Hald Nielsen on September 17, 2009 at 10:50 am
How about “Soapbox” ?
from wikipedia: “A soapbox is a raised platform on which one stands to make an impromptu speech”
– Nikolaj
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Posted by michael on September 17, 2009 at 11:12 am
I’d suggest ‘Korner’ – after Speakers’ Corner
According to
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speakers%27_Corner
‘A Speakers’ Corner is an area where public speaking is allowed.’
Posted by Matt on September 17, 2009 at 11:19 am
Authority – Comes from being the author of a blog, and being for example a leading authority on a particular subject.
Posted by Solid Snake on September 17, 2009 at 11:51 am
Maybe “bloKKer”
Posted by Solid Snake on September 17, 2009 at 11:52 am
“BloKit” “The ultimate kit to Blog” ;)
Posted by Cyril on September 17, 2009 at 12:49 pm
I think “rakontu” mentioned above is good – it’s Esperanto for “tell!”
Or what about “Blabla Blogger”? ;-)
Posted by dennis on September 17, 2009 at 12:51 pm
I’d say blogana.
But reading these suggestions I have to say I really like klogger.
Posted by Hans on September 17, 2009 at 12:58 pm
@Solid Snake:
Heh, thought about that too, but with a g.
– Blogkit
(Sounds a bit like “Blog it” too). However, I’ve already suggested a name with “Kit” for another project, so I didn’t want to oversuggest that word. (Now I’ve done it anyway…) :P
I like the “Publish” idea. However, “Publish” is too general, there’s already an application called “Publisher” and to be honest, I don’t really like the “K” thing either. Therefore I suggest
– Prodo
According to online Latin to English dictionary: publish, bring forth, appoint, abandon, betray, deliver, transmit, hand over, disclose (can someone confirm that it’s correct?).
Also, it sounds like “Frodo”. :D
Posted by TGM on September 17, 2009 at 1:27 pm
What about WeBlog? I think it’s so good it should be mentioned twice…
Posted by Mehrdad on September 18, 2009 at 1:04 am
It’s fine, but seems like Weblog! And it’s not fine :D
Posted by Snirp on September 17, 2009 at 1:30 pm
For god’s sake, no more names starting with a K!
My suggestions:
– Fama
– Pheme
– Ossa
All names for the Roman goddess of Slander, Rumour, Report, Gossip, Fame, Good reputation. No god travelled faster than this goddess of news.
All three names are short kinda catchy…
Posted by chrisM on September 17, 2009 at 1:30 pm
the name is probably not protected for “software” but only for “movies”
so you just can keep using it probably
Posted by Mehrdad on September 17, 2009 at 11:32 pm
No, I have contacted with one of lawyers, and she tells me that we can’t use it :(
Posted by deabru on September 17, 2009 at 1:32 pm
blogoffline
blogger
blogwritter
Posted by Snirp on September 17, 2009 at 1:36 pm
I could live with “WeBlog” and “Soapbox” as well.
If you expect a sense of humor with your audience, you could go for:
– Slander
– FlameStarter
…
Posted by Snirp on September 17, 2009 at 1:48 pm
@ Hans,
As my memory serves me:
The Latin verb is “prodere”, to produce / bring forth. “prodo” means as much as: I produce (first person), not unlike Volvo means: I roll.
Posted by edulix on September 17, 2009 at 1:54 pm
What about:
* blogsteam
* blogattan
* delablog
Posted by OMLX on September 17, 2009 at 2:23 pm
Dawen = in Arabic write a blog
Posted by vespas on September 17, 2009 at 3:12 pm
I vote for Kaho, it sounds nice *and* features a K!
Posted by Ken on September 17, 2009 at 3:14 pm
How about “Ether”? With oxygen, plasma, air etc, it would be good to call it something like that. And anyway, isn’t blogging posting content to the ether?
Posted by Arne Babenhauserheide on September 17, 2009 at 3:32 pm
Comments:
* “Vox” is a german TV station :(
* The mentioned “Rakontu” means “tell!” in Esperanto.
* Dawen sounds – like “Awen” :)
* And Kaho sounds really nice, too!
Own ideas:
* In the same spirit as Rakontu, “Publicilo” would be ‘tool to publish’ in Esperanto.
* “Parolilo” would be ‘tool to speak’ and “Oratorilo” would be ‘tool to speak in public’.
But to be frank, I’d really prefer KBlog – at least for casual blogging.
Do you intend to make it a program similar to Amarok, or rather similar to KMail?
(Amarok brings its own style, a plugin system and tries to revolutionarize the music experience, while KMail tries to just be a darn good E-Mail Program).
In the first case I’d go for a very distinguishing name like Kaho (target high-volume bloggers, for example via multi-blog scheduling, multi-user synchronization of drafts via version tracking systems, auto-formatting, Export as HTML to FTP, statistics, comment evaluation, visitor flow analysis from server log files and similar), in the second case I’d rather user KBlogger (target casual bloggers).
Differntly put: How big and sophisticated to you envision Bilbo to become? Will he keep the One Ring and find all bloggers to bind them with power and grace, or will he return to the shire and provide really easy blogging for his fellow happy bloggers? :)
Posted by Mehrdad on September 17, 2009 at 11:37 pm
KBlog is currently the name of a Library in KDE!
And, what we think about it’s future is something between 2 different ones you explain :D
Posted by Mehrdad on September 17, 2009 at 11:38 pm
And your mention to Bilbo and one ring is really funny, i like it :)
Posted by Arne Babenhauserheide on September 18, 2009 at 5:10 pm
I’m glad you like it :)
I enjoy playing with names and images :)
Does “in between” mean he’ll give the ring to Frodo and turn to blogging in Rivendell while Frodo (or Kajo / Kaho / whatever) gets to choose on the Mount Doom with some help from Sam / the loyal user-community? And who is Gollum? ;)
Back to serious :)
Do you plan to unite the two extremes?
That would in turn influence which name to choose.
KBlogger / Blogilo / KPublish / more easily understandable blog analogies , or
Kaho / Kajo / Dawen / more powerful sounding names.
United it should sound easy as well as powerful :)
But what I’d do before choosing anything is taking all names and searching for all bad meanings people could easily read into them to weed out bad ones. Then check how easy they are to speak (possible record them) and see what’s left :)
Posted by Mehrdad on September 18, 2009 at 8:16 pm
Yes Arne,
It’s really funny for me :D
And so, It seems that he’s going to back to the mountains, but not to fight with trolls, back to his friends in Rivendell and write his story, when all free guys around the world are trying to bring back freedom and peace to the Middle Earth :D
And Ring of Power should be destroyed at the Mount Doom, Because at the new Age, Knowledge is Power…
HA HA :D
Posted by Arne Babenhauserheide on September 17, 2009 at 3:37 pm
This doesn’t mean that a simple name wouldn’t profit from a very good name, though :)
I just remembered that my KDE has descriptive name additional to the distinguishing one, so I’d see “Blogging client – Kaho” or similar anyway.
Posted by Arne Babenhauserheide on September 17, 2009 at 4:00 pm
(above should be “simple program” :) )
Kipu -> “talking knot” in modern Quechua http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quipu
Kajero -> book for taking notes – eo (Esperanto)
Kreadilo/Kreilo -> tool to create – eo
Kablilo -> Tool to send something over the wire :) – eo
Kunagu -> contribute! (write a comment :) ) – eo
Posted by Markus on September 17, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Kaptain’s Log
Blokker
KBlogger
Posted by Danni Coy on September 17, 2009 at 5:07 pm
Perhaps Dagger (supposedly that is what the word bilbo is supposed to mean)
Or perhaps something like electric soapbox.
Mememaker?
mynews?
paperboy?
Posted by Pedro Ferreira de Almeida on September 17, 2009 at 5:16 pm
“Ksomething” names have really become a plague. Can’t KDE devs have some basic notions of marketing-speak? Gnome app names are simple, some play with commonly known puns and fit quite well the spirit of the whole environment. Same with Apple’s. Even Windows, damn. KDE apps kick the hell out of many of them in terms of active development, functionality and other things but lack seriously in naming-coolness…
Krita, Kamoso and others… just don’t make it to Latin people (Portuguese, for instance)… too harsh names, seems like you’re pulling the spit out of your guts…
Posted by Pedro Ferreira de Almeida on September 17, 2009 at 5:20 pm
I’d vote for Soapbox! =)
Posted by Roger Keyser on September 17, 2009 at 5:25 pm
I submit ´kwebbel´ (capital optional) pronounced as ´quebbel´. In Dutch, kwebbelen means chatter, a kwebbelaar (someone who kwebbels) is a chatterbox, a kwebbelkast (kwebbel-chest) is radio, these days replaced by the computer. The nice thing is that it has a ´k´ , which some people find essential, and you don´t pronounce it, because some people hate it. And then also the ´kweb´ in the word!
Posted by Arne Babenhauserheide on September 17, 2009 at 5:52 pm
@Pedro Ferreira de Almeida: To whom do you market?
If you target me as user, then KBlogger is just right: When I want to blog I type “k” + “bl” and hope I get a nice completion in krunner.
These K-apps have a vast advantage: They really ram home the point that KDE is an integrated environment. If you use kopete, why not also kmail, krita and kate?
From the sound of these, they are definitely the elements of the “K” Digital Environment (or whatever long form you prefer).
It makes it very easy for users to identify well integrated programs.
Posted by Arne Babenhauserheide on September 17, 2009 at 5:58 pm
Companies like the German Telekom rename themselves to “T-com” and their services to “T-mobile”, so why is it bad marketing when KDE programs call themselves K-something?
It might not be the most efficient thing from the view of some big individual apps (i.e. Amarok), but it is heaven for brand name recognition.
I already think KDE when I see any app starting with a k, and I don’t think that’s a bad thing – rather the opposite!
If KDE should someday have konquered the desktop, these K-apps might have played a big role in that.
Posted by blueget on September 17, 2009 at 8:51 pm
definitely KBlogger.
Posted by Svein on September 17, 2009 at 9:23 pm
This is a big opportunity to get a name that will work well in many languages.
I agree with those that think “clever” names with a K in them has become a desease. It is fun for “geeks” (meant in the best possible way – I am one of them), but it does not mean anything for anyone that is not already familiar with KDE. And if you are already familiar with KDE, what extra benefit do you then get from adding that K?
Most of the times it looks really unprofessional, so please do not fall into that trap. Let KDE take care of their own marketing and give this application a name that can be used for marketing in most languages. And most important – it MUST work well in English. A good example of a name that do not work well in English is choqoK. It is a strange name, and when you pronounce it, it sounds like something that kids would not be allowed to say in school or church. I do understand the reason behind the name, but I think it would be a good move to find a new name for this as well :-)
A brandrecognition is something that needs to be connected to the product in question, and in this case, it is the blogging software, not KDE. Go for a word that is easy and have a meaning, not a constructed word or abbreviation. And a word that is correctly spelled.
After all this, I am not sure if I dare come with any suggestions :-) But let us give it a try. Some of these are probably taken already, but what counts here is the ideas:
Papyrus
Green (as a blog saves paper and thus trees…)
Alexandria (hinting to the library as a collection of knowledge and making a parallell to blogs as a form of library)
Blogmill or Blog mill – a paper mill was first invented in Baghdad and used to mass produce paper. A blog client can be used to mass produce blogs… :-)
Posted by tada on September 17, 2009 at 11:04 pm
The rules of a brainstrom:
# Focus on quantity
# WITHHOLD CRITICISM
# Welcome unusual ideas:
# Combine and improve ideas
Goodbye brain storm, hello KFlamewar!
As I am the first to take side in any flamewar: skrew you with them bloody K’s. Hate em.
NEVER when in acronyms
– KGPG, KRDC
ALWAYS allowed when they okkur seemingly naturally in a name:
– Amarok, Choqok
NOT including substituting -C for a -K
– DigiKam
EXCEPTION is where KDE system tools are koncerned:
– Krunner, Konsole
Posted by Mehrdad on September 17, 2009 at 11:43 pm
It seems to me, a talk and discussion, more than a flame war!
It’s really useful to know, others idea about KSomething or not!?
Posted by tada on September 18, 2009 at 12:08 am
C’mon, play along. I am trying to get KFlamewar started here.
Posted by Martin on September 17, 2009 at 11:50 pm
Blok
Posted by mahoutsukai on September 18, 2009 at 12:20 am
Balblog
Posted by purple-bobby on September 18, 2009 at 3:57 am
A brainstorm is where you blurt out ideas, regardless of how silly they might be – FREE FROM CRITICISM. Once you have a lot of ideas, someone can filter out the hopeless ones, but you will not get a lot of ideas if everyone is fearful of hash criticism.
Perhaps brainstorming is akin to the infinite moneys typing on infinite typewriters.
The K thing, K or KDE is the brand*, but from within Kontact, mail is described as Mail, the calendar as Calendar, etc. So from within the environment whatever it’s called, it is going to be labelled Blog, I assume.
But I agree there is a lot of value calling the thing what it is
Posted by Michael "Kool" Howell on September 18, 2009 at 4:21 am
1. I actually always liked the use of Ks. Remember the iPod. I DON’T like those crazy things like DigiKam, or worse amaroK. Looked too strange and crosses the “cool abnormal” and “loser weird” barrier.
2. Kaho and KBlog are both cool. Many of the other suggestions seem too difficult to remember.
Posted by Snirp on September 18, 2009 at 2:41 pm
+1 for escalating KFlamewar.
I am remembering no -K in iPod, but maybe I remember wrong.
Posted by Arne Babenhauserheide on September 18, 2009 at 2:51 pm
iPod, iTunes, iSuck, iMovie, iMac, iBook
That’s brand recognition on the expert level.
iMac goes even further: “I am Mac” -> wish: user identifies with the Mac.
K-whatever: The key to …
KBlogger is the key to efficient blogging.
KMail is the key to your mails.
And
“KDE is the key to your digital experience.”
Posted by redsteakraw on September 18, 2009 at 5:00 am
BroadKast
BlogKast
Posted by Danni Coy on September 18, 2009 at 5:33 am
Chatterbox
Posted by Arnomane on September 18, 2009 at 1:36 pm
I’d advocate for a word which has at least a somewhat correct meaning for as much as possible people (regardless of their language skills and mother language) and which does not need a complicate explanation. Therefore I suggest an Esperanto word (very often you even don’t need to know anything in order to gasp a meaning of an Esperanto word):
* Blogilo – means “blog tool” (-ilo the suffix for tool).
* Publicisto – “publisher”.
* Sontubo – “loudspeaker”
Maybe someone else even has a better (constructed and thus more unique) Esperanto word.
Posted by Arne Babenhauserheide on September 18, 2009 at 4:55 pm
Blogilo sounds nice – and it’s also quite close to the original name.
Bilbo -> Blogilo
Posted by Marc Altmann on September 18, 2009 at 3:41 pm
“Kaho” would be my favorite.
Posted by Mehrdad on September 18, 2009 at 8:34 pm
OK,
We choose “Blogilo”, And I have updated the post, with result and reason :)
THANKS FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
Posted by Svein on September 18, 2009 at 10:44 pm
Congratulations on the new name!
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